User talk:Ravenswing

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I am disinterested in flames.

Want to blow off steam? Run around your block a dozen times or so instead.

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This user talk page is watched by several friendly editors, and someone other than me might reply to your query. Their input is always appreciated.

To the degree you might care, by the bye, I'm male, but I don't snarl with rage if misgendered; it's a good bit less by way of travail and indignity than half the human race put up with for pretty much the entire Holocene.

Springfield, Massachusetts

Thank you for nuking the "walk score" cruft at Springfield, Massachusetts. You may find this RFC useful for cleanup as well. Cheers. Magnolia677 (talk) 11:13, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

Yeah, I've always felt that cruft like that is utterly subjective, subject to infinite debate (cf. Alpha World City vs Epsilon World City), usually poorly sourced, and impenetrable to laymen. What the bloody hell IS a "Walk Score," what do the numbers mean, and what's the methodology? Quite aside from that duh, city centers tend to be more walkable than their peripheries. Who knew? Regards, Ravenswing 18:46, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

Regarding rv on Pontic Greek culture

Hi, I see that you've reverted this edit of mine. You're right that I should have included a summary, that's my bad, but if you read the text I edited you will see that the statement I removed is redundant; the text reads "According to Ethnologue, 778,000 spoke Romeika as of 2015. 400,000 of these speakers lived in Greece. Most of these speakers live in Greece". It's already established that 400k out of 778k lived in Greece as recently as 2015, so it doesn't make a lot of sense for the very next sentence to state essentially the same thing in a more vague manner. TeoTB (talk) 23:49, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

Ah, fair enough. Feel free to revert to your version, then; that makes sense. Ravenswing 00:18, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, I'll go ahead and restore it. TeoTB (talk) 00:37, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

Userpage edit

I should explain why I edited it. I landed there by following a WP:RWL link from some other page, and did not even realize until after I made the first edit that it was a userpage. I obviously agree that generally "your userpage, your perogative to do whatever within reason". But I'm concerned that a WP-space link to it appears to elevate it beyond being just your userpage for personal-user writing and moves towards being something more of a WP:Essay. DMacks (talk) 07:41, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

Happy Holidays

The 12 Days of Wikipedia On the 12th day of Christmas Jimbo sent to me 12 BLPs 11 RFAs 10 New Users 9 Barnstars 8 Admins Blocking 7 Socks Socking 6 Clerks Clerking 5 Check Users 4 Oversighters 3 GAs 2 Did You Knows and an ARB in a pear tree. -May your holiday season be filled with joy, laughter and good health.--Masterhatch (talk) 18:54, 22 December 2024 (UTC) Yours as well, old friend! Thank you very much! (laughs softly) Ravenswing 21:36, 22 December 2024 (UTC) This message was generated using {{subst: The 12 Days of Wikipedia}}

Happy Christmas

Merry Christmas, Ravenswing! Or Season's Greetings or Happy Winter Solstice! As the year winds to a close, I would like to take a moment to recognize your hard work and offer heartfelt gratitude for all you do for Wikipedia. May this Holiday Season bring you nothing but joy, health and prosperity. Onel5969 TT me 23:17, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Thank you kindly, and the same back to you! Ravenswing 08:50, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

AFDs

Hello, Ravenswing,

Reviewing Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alexandra Ievleva, I see that you claim you have participated in over 4700 AFDs! That's very impressive. However, this is what that stat means to me as a closer: There are very, very few editors participating in an AFD who will come to the discussion with the level of experience and knowledge that you have. So, it's unrealistic to expect them to have that knowledge and experience. Rather than berate them for their ignorance of, for example, acceptable sources, you can come from a place of knowledge and instruct them on policy. I know that you frequently do this already and after 19 years as an editor, it might have gotten tiresome to be frequently teaching editors on what they should do to follow our policies on notability and sourcing. I just think that you have so much knowledge to share that you would be very effective if you weren't so, well, condescending to editors new to deletion discussions. You are an invaluable participant in AFD discussions and I'd love it if you could be part of educating other editors on what is expected rather than chase them away from participating in discussions. I'd love it if we influence less skilled editors in a positive way and could clone you and we had dozens more Ravenswings to participate in AFDs!

We all came from a place on not knowing policy and let's help editors who might be skilled in other areas of the project learn how discussions run in AfDLand. Thanks again for your contributions to 4700 AFD discussions and many more in the future! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:50, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

And here's my answer to that, Liz: sooner or later, we expect editors to get it. If Moscow Connection was a newbie editor with a few hundred edits and no AfD experience, my tone would have been vastly different. This is not the case. They've been on Wikipedia fifteen years, with over sixty thousand edits, and have participated in nearly a hundred AfD discussions. They are not remotely new to deletion discussions. There is no excuse in the world for them not knowing the basics of SIGCOV and the GNG, and even less for them to dig in their heels and ignore exhortations to review the relevant guidelines and get a better handle on notability standards. Honestly, my takeaway is less wondering about MC's experience, and more along the lines of wondering if their whole pattern of editing is of a like kind.

Anyway, rant over, and thank you for listening. I greatly admire the thankless work you do at ANI. Ravenswing 23:05, 11 January 2025 (UTC)